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		<title>By: Rev  Albert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rev  Albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Omegaman

In all you have said, you have demonstrated what the church currently suffers from. Not the subject on the Old Testament, but about how every uses the Scriptures to push forward their own opinions. I am truly impressed with your level of Comprehension as one who has stepped back and look at everyone doing their own thing.

This day, the day you read this tread, declares the Lord God of the heavens, and his only begotten Son Jesus Christ, the Angel of the Lord will make camp with you; and will endow you with all the Gifts of the Spirit and indeed increase your understand. 

In God's word we are commanded to humble ourselves; and God will raise us up. You can never know personally that you are humble, but your demonstrated love through how you deal with others shows your humility. You think about your words before you write them or say them; that speaks about your heart.

The Angel with you will teach you how to heal the sick and raise the dead; and will also teach you how the power of healing works; and will move you to show love to everyone that you want to help. Once you desire to help, he will move upon anyone you touch and give you tangible evidence that he is there. Even if you do not believe that he is there, he will not leave; and only when you start desiring to show love to someone by either giving or helping them, that he will move upon the person.

And God Bless you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Omegaman</p>
<p>In all you have said, you have demonstrated what the church currently suffers from. Not the subject on the Old Testament, but about how every uses the Scriptures to push forward their own opinions. I am truly impressed with your level of Comprehension as one who has stepped back and look at everyone doing their own thing.</p>
<p>This day, the day you read this tread, declares the Lord God of the heavens, and his only begotten Son Jesus Christ, the Angel of the Lord will make camp with you; and will endow you with all the Gifts of the Spirit and indeed increase your understand. </p>
<p>In God&#8217;s word we are commanded to humble ourselves; and God will raise us up. You can never know personally that you are humble, but your demonstrated love through how you deal with others shows your humility. You think about your words before you write them or say them; that speaks about your heart.</p>
<p>The Angel with you will teach you how to heal the sick and raise the dead; and will also teach you how the power of healing works; and will move you to show love to everyone that you want to help. Once you desire to help, he will move upon anyone you touch and give you tangible evidence that he is there. Even if you do not believe that he is there, he will not leave; and only when you start desiring to show love to someone by either giving or helping them, that he will move upon the person.</p>
<p>And God Bless you</p>
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		<title>By: Ruth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading most of the blogs on this issue about the Old and New Testaments, I felt strongly moved to chime in.  It's funny-- I've been reading the books of Exodus, Numbers and Leviticus lately because I've grown deeply fascinated with the Tabernacle in the wilderness and Yahweh's Laws concerning its building and sanctification. All things about the tabernacle symbolize our Lord Jesus Christ: the sacrificial bronze altar, it's annointing with blood, the priest's robes, and the curtain that is before the Most Holy Place. One of God's instructions to Moses was to use the colors red, purple and blue year when making the curtain of the tabernacle [Exodus 26:1-2],when making Aaron's priestly sash and other things. [The Jews Torah? states that the purple yarn represents the Messiah. Purple as you know, is a mixture of red=earth and blue=heaven. There is so much more symbolism that points to Christ, just as he told his apostles. Is the Old Testament relevant for Christians.  You bet.  I was able to understand Jesus' even better after reading about the very detailed laws and procedures that Yahweh gave to the Israelites through wonderful Moses.If we don't consider the ancient symbols that  represented the Savior, I feel the we'll miss out on a lot.(Exodus 26:1-2). PLEEEZE read the Old Testament books--then look at Revelation 1:9-16). Peace.
Ruth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading most of the blogs on this issue about the Old and New Testaments, I felt strongly moved to chime in.  It&#8217;s funny&#8211; I&#8217;ve been reading the books of Exodus, Numbers and Leviticus lately because I&#8217;ve grown deeply fascinated with the Tabernacle in the wilderness and Yahweh&#8217;s Laws concerning its building and sanctification. All things about the tabernacle symbolize our Lord Jesus Christ: the sacrificial bronze altar, it&#8217;s annointing with blood, the priest&#8217;s robes, and the curtain that is before the Most Holy Place. One of God&#8217;s instructions to Moses was to use the colors red, purple and blue year when making the curtain of the tabernacle [Exodus 26:1-2],when making Aaron&#8217;s priestly sash and other things. [The Jews Torah? states that the purple yarn represents the Messiah. Purple as you know, is a mixture of red=earth and blue=heaven. There is so much more symbolism that points to Christ, just as he told his apostles. Is the Old Testament relevant for Christians.  You bet.  I was able to understand Jesus&#8217; even better after reading about the very detailed laws and procedures that Yahweh gave to the Israelites through wonderful Moses.If we don&#8217;t consider the ancient symbols that  represented the Savior, I feel the we&#8217;ll miss out on a lot.(Exodus 26:1-2). PLEEEZE read the Old Testament books&#8211;then look at Revelation 1:9-16). Peace.<br />
Ruth</p>
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		<title>By: bobinthegong</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobinthegong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi omegaman.

I'd say that the old testament is alive and well. I only just escaped from a christian chat room where they were discussing the merits of castrating child molesters and rapists! When I asked what we do with women who do those things, stony silence was the stern reply.

Seriously though, I have to agree with you. The old testament is rich with God's promises, the fulfillment of which we see in the life, death and ressurection of Christ. In truth, I don't think you can have one without the other. The old testament, taken as a whole, is the story of God's law, and how utterly we are unable to live up to it. The new testament is about what God did about that.

I am what could best be termed a 'returning backslider'. I have been in the wilderness for many years, but just last week I finally took the Book off the shelf, blew the dust off it, and asking God for a 'sign', for want of a better word, opened up at Isiaih 41. It got my attention, especially vs 8-20. I couldn't think of a better scripture for someone in my position. There were no flashing lights, no bells or whistles; just a feeling of assurance that I am loved, that God has not forgotten me, that there is light at the end of the tunnel.

My conclusion? The Word of God is a thing of beauty, of promise, of love and grace. Check out John 1:1-5. Jesus is the Word of God. And it says somewhere,(Revelation?) that not one jot or tittle of the word will be nullified, or words to that effect.

As for you, Omegaman,(revelation again!), you seem to be a fairly sensible, well adjusted bloke. I think, in my experience, that a lot of Christians forget one of the Lords greatest gifts to us: Commonsense.

Grace and peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi omegaman.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say that the old testament is alive and well. I only just escaped from a christian chat room where they were discussing the merits of castrating child molesters and rapists! When I asked what we do with women who do those things, stony silence was the stern reply.</p>
<p>Seriously though, I have to agree with you. The old testament is rich with God&#8217;s promises, the fulfillment of which we see in the life, death and ressurection of Christ. In truth, I don&#8217;t think you can have one without the other. The old testament, taken as a whole, is the story of God&#8217;s law, and how utterly we are unable to live up to it. The new testament is about what God did about that.</p>
<p>I am what could best be termed a &#8216;returning backslider&#8217;. I have been in the wilderness for many years, but just last week I finally took the Book off the shelf, blew the dust off it, and asking God for a &#8217;sign&#8217;, for want of a better word, opened up at Isiaih 41. It got my attention, especially vs 8-20. I couldn&#8217;t think of a better scripture for someone in my position. There were no flashing lights, no bells or whistles; just a feeling of assurance that I am loved, that God has not forgotten me, that there is light at the end of the tunnel.</p>
<p>My conclusion? The Word of God is a thing of beauty, of promise, of love and grace. Check out John 1:1-5. Jesus is the Word of God. And it says somewhere,(Revelation?) that not one jot or tittle of the word will be nullified, or words to that effect.</p>
<p>As for you, Omegaman,(revelation again!), you seem to be a fairly sensible, well adjusted bloke. I think, in my experience, that a lot of Christians forget one of the Lords greatest gifts to us: Commonsense.</p>
<p>Grace and peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Marguerite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marguerite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Omegaman,

Read your blog, superfantastic, meaty with scripture and none ramming - down  - your - throat - style.  I have and still do struggle with new and old testasment scripture, but know that Its not about me, its about God.  

I do stuff wrong, we all do, but I just say, hey God I mucked it up again looks like I really do need you.  he just needs us to acknowledge our sin and he gives us his grace.  Don't know about you but I live by faith and Grace and Gods Love alone.
I have left the pentecostal church I attended because of legalism, saying we should be right with God and be righteous, but We can never be right with God, He makes us right by sending Jesus Christ to shed his blood for us.  That and only that Is being right with God.  Be real people, stand for Jesus just as you are. live under Grace, and let him love you into being holy through faith in Jesus and his grace and mercy.

Thank you for writing what I feel is inspiring to my walk. Refreshing and Real.

May God truley and richly bless you with his Love.

marg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Omegaman,</p>
<p>Read your blog, superfantastic, meaty with scripture and none ramming - down  - your - throat - style.  I have and still do struggle with new and old testasment scripture, but know that Its not about me, its about God.  </p>
<p>I do stuff wrong, we all do, but I just say, hey God I mucked it up again looks like I really do need you.  he just needs us to acknowledge our sin and he gives us his grace.  Don&#8217;t know about you but I live by faith and Grace and Gods Love alone.<br />
I have left the pentecostal church I attended because of legalism, saying we should be right with God and be righteous, but We can never be right with God, He makes us right by sending Jesus Christ to shed his blood for us.  That and only that Is being right with God.  Be real people, stand for Jesus just as you are. live under Grace, and let him love you into being holy through faith in Jesus and his grace and mercy.</p>
<p>Thank you for writing what I feel is inspiring to my walk. Refreshing and Real.</p>
<p>May God truley and richly bless you with his Love.</p>
<p>marg</p>
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		<title>By: RJAVF</title>
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		<dc:creator>RJAVF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 17:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am aware that not many Christians truely know what OLD TESTEMENT means. Some even those who retun tihe believe that the OT is simply the book from Genesis to Malachi.&lt;br /&gt;
But the OT in reality refers to ANIMAL / BLOOD SACRIFICES.&lt;br /&gt;
When we say that we are not under the OT what we must undrstand from this is that we are no longer obligated to use animal sacrifices, or high priest or any of the " shadows" that represented Jesus.&lt;br /&gt;
The book of Hebrews chapters 7-10 give a good discription of the old covenant and new. and the book of Acts chapter 15 gives a good indication that we ( NONE HEBREW BELIEVERS IN JESUS) must continue to obey the laws writen in the book which we call the OT.&lt;br /&gt;
The division of the bible into books of OT and NT is not divine. Its a human doing. God divided His  SCRIPTURE into two divisions: THE LAW ( written by Moses) and THE PROPHETS. Now these are the divisions made by God and are divine, and ALL of them regardless of what book we read apply today&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am aware that not many Christians truely know what OLD TESTEMENT means. Some even those who retun tihe believe that the OT is simply the book from Genesis to Malachi.<br />
But the OT in reality refers to ANIMAL / BLOOD SACRIFICES.<br />
When we say that we are not under the OT what we must undrstand from this is that we are no longer obligated to use animal sacrifices, or high priest or any of the &#8221; shadows&#8221; that represented Jesus.<br />
The book of Hebrews chapters 7-10 give a good discription of the old covenant and new. and the book of Acts chapter 15 gives a good indication that we ( NONE HEBREW BELIEVERS IN JESUS) must continue to obey the laws writen in the book which we call the OT.<br />
The division of the bible into books of OT and NT is not divine. Its a human doing. God divided His  SCRIPTURE into two divisions: THE LAW ( written by Moses) and THE PROPHETS. Now these are the divisions made by God and are divine, and ALL of them regardless of what book we read apply today</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 03:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesus did not come to "replace the law but to fulfill the law". 

God does not change and people are not different from thousands of years ago. Societies and mans laws change.

What applied to mankind b.c. still applies today.  Living by faith instead of the law does not negate the law. God still expects the same from mankind as any other time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus did not come to &#8220;replace the law but to fulfill the law&#8221;. </p>
<p>God does not change and people are not different from thousands of years ago. Societies and mans laws change.</p>
<p>What applied to mankind b.c. still applies today.  Living by faith instead of the law does not negate the law. God still expects the same from mankind as any other time.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Cartwright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Cartwright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 12:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had an 'out of body' experience when I suffered a cardiac arrest. The comment I have to make about," is the Old Testament relevant for today." is simple. Yes it is!

I say this because I thought and quite rightly that my last breath had been taken from me.
I uttered the words, "well I've finally bought it Lord and I've failed you."
The reply came back, "My ways are not your ways, neither are your ways my ways; I have chosen you with all your faults, you didn't choose me. I know your faults. Now go back and follow my laws, do this and you will greatly please me." 
So where did I go? To the ten commandments of course. Then I began to study different laws and see if they were relevant to my situation and the modern day or if they were directed to the peoples of that period in time.
A great deal of wisdom, understanding and discernment are needed to interpret these correctly and that is why we have God's Holy Spirit who will direct us into all truth and knowlege. We are human and we will continue to make mistakes but remember that God knows us and all our ways.

The Old and New Testaments compliment each other and there is a wealth of instruction and hope in the old as well as the new. Prayer is the key to heaven and faith unlocks the door. Enjoy both old and new.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had an &#8216;out of body&#8217; experience when I suffered a cardiac arrest. The comment I have to make about,&#8221; is the Old Testament relevant for today.&#8221; is simple. Yes it is!</p>
<p>I say this because I thought and quite rightly that my last breath had been taken from me.<br />
I uttered the words, &#8220;well I&#8217;ve finally bought it Lord and I&#8217;ve failed you.&#8221;<br />
The reply came back, &#8220;My ways are not your ways, neither are your ways my ways; I have chosen you with all your faults, you didn&#8217;t choose me. I know your faults. Now go back and follow my laws, do this and you will greatly please me.&#8221;<br />
So where did I go? To the ten commandments of course. Then I began to study different laws and see if they were relevant to my situation and the modern day or if they were directed to the peoples of that period in time.<br />
A great deal of wisdom, understanding and discernment are needed to interpret these correctly and that is why we have God&#8217;s Holy Spirit who will direct us into all truth and knowlege. We are human and we will continue to make mistakes but remember that God knows us and all our ways.</p>
<p>The Old and New Testaments compliment each other and there is a wealth of instruction and hope in the old as well as the new. Prayer is the key to heaven and faith unlocks the door. Enjoy both old and new.</p>
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