Comments on: Are you a poor American? http://www.worthychat.com/blog/54/ A deeper look into how Worthy Chat is run and the people who administer to Worthy Chat! Mon, 12 May 2008 06:01:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Omegaman 2.0 http://www.worthychat.com/blog/54/#comment-22876 Omegaman 2.0 Thu, 08 May 2008 09:38:35 +0000 http://www.worthychat.com/blog/54/#comment-22876 There has been considerable contention on this topic. It is as though there are two ways of seeing the world. On the one hand, there is a recogition of a problem and an attitude, and what can be done about it. One the other hand, there are those who are reactionary, and find fault with that. Some of those, were in a self-described condition of poverty and sought to defend their condition, as if they were the targets of an attack. A few got the actual message, and I am grateful for that. I can see that there is not likely to be much said here, that has not already been said. While it may not be fair that I get to have the last word, I hope it is something you can live with. If you really need to tell me off, I am available several evenings a week in the chatroom, generally in the 7 to midnight west U.S. coast time. I will be happy to hear your further criticisms there. For now, I am closing this topic to further comments, feeling that this topic has run it's course. Thank you for reading it, and special thanks to those who chose to voice their opinions. There has been considerable contention on this topic. It is as though there are two ways of seeing the world. On the one hand, there is a recogition of a problem and an attitude, and what can be done about it. One the other hand, there are those who are reactionary, and find fault with that. Some of those, were in a self-described condition of poverty and sought to defend their condition, as if they were the targets of an attack.
A few got the actual message, and I am grateful for that. I can see that there is not likely to be much said here, that has not already been said.
While it may not be fair that I get to have the last word, I hope it is something you can live with. If you really need to tell me off, I am available several evenings a week in the chatroom, generally in the 7 to midnight west U.S. coast time. I will be happy to hear your further criticisms there.
For now, I am closing this topic to further comments, feeling that this topic has run it’s course.
Thank you for reading it, and special thanks to those who chose to voice their opinions.

]]> By: Omegaman 2.0 http://www.worthychat.com/blog/54/#comment-22826 Omegaman 2.0 Fri, 02 May 2008 21:50:01 +0000 http://www.worthychat.com/blog/54/#comment-22826 I have never lived true poverty Sharon, but I can describe it. I have seen it up close, no available medical care, dirt floors, tattered and dirty clothes, no running water, and a sewer system that is nothing more that a hand dug creek slowly running past peoples homes. This creek with feces floating in it, is also the drinking water supply. The 'homes' are constructed of cardboard, sticks, pieces of metal or what ever else they could find. No window, no doors, no heat, no utilies of any kind. Food scarcely available, and when it is, it is rotting or maggot infested. Do you have to live that lind of poverty to understand it? I do not think so. That is a life without hope. That is real poverty, and some people in the world, have it worse. My point was comparing our ideas of poverty in the United States, with the abject poverty that some people in other parts of the world experience. Try making ends meet on a dollar a day, or even think about it, and you will imagine what I am talking about. Compared with that, America's poor, have it relatively good. People in your economic state, do not have an easy life. It is hard, you deserve compassion and help. So while I was comparing American poverty with the poverty in third world countries, your level of poverty is not the type I was addressing. I don't think you will find that I, or anyone else who commented on this topic, suggested that you were lazy or not really poor. Remember what I said when i started this off . . . home ownership, cars, air conditioners, TVs etc, are things that many of those who are called poor, enjoy. They are better of than the middle class was in my father's generation. Our expectations are high these day. We see wealth around us, and think of it as the norm, something that everyone is supposed to have, and we make ourselves unhappy, by trying to have all the same things our neighbors do. The poor, know who they are. Some of the well off, do not recognize that they are well off, so they go through life miserable, because they cannot or have not reached the expectations they have set for their lives. My blog, was not for you. It was for those who have not taken the time to count their blessings, because they are too busy whining about the things that they do not have, and do not need. Big difference. I am having real trouble, understanding why people who are not well off, think I am speaking to their situation. Those, who like you, are really struggling, are in our prayers. Those of us, who are better off, need to be supportive of those who have not. In most communities there are people who are struggling. In most communities, their is some organization devoted to helping such people. Our responsibility, is to remember the poor, and seek to help them. The poor have a responsibility too, to try to rise up out of their poverty, and until they do, brush aside any pride they have that might keep them fron receiving help offered. Failing to do that, both those who want to help, and those who need it, are both missing a blessing. I have never lived true poverty Sharon, but I can describe it. I have seen it up close, no available medical care, dirt floors, tattered and dirty clothes, no running water, and a sewer system that is nothing more that a hand dug creek slowly running past peoples homes. This creek with feces floating in it, is also the drinking water supply. The ‘homes’ are constructed of cardboard, sticks, pieces of metal or what ever else they could find. No window, no doors, no heat, no utilies of any kind. Food scarcely available, and when it is, it is rotting or maggot infested. Do you have to live that lind of poverty to understand it? I do not think so. That is a life without hope.
That is real poverty, and some people in the world, have it worse. My point was comparing our ideas of poverty in the United States, with the abject poverty that some people in other parts of the world experience. Try making ends meet on a dollar a day, or even think about it, and you will imagine what I am talking about. Compared with that, America’s poor, have it relatively good.
People in your economic state, do not have an easy life. It is hard, you deserve compassion and help. So while I was comparing American poverty with the poverty in third world countries, your level of poverty is not the type I was addressing. I don’t think you will find that I, or anyone else who commented on this topic, suggested that you were lazy or not really poor. Remember what I said when i started this off . . . home ownership, cars, air conditioners, TVs etc, are things that many of those who are called poor, enjoy. They are better of than the middle class was in my father’s generation.
Our expectations are high these day. We see wealth around us, and think of it as the norm, something that everyone is supposed to have, and we make ourselves unhappy, by trying to have all the same things our neighbors do.
The poor, know who they are. Some of the well off, do not recognize that they are well off, so they go through life miserable, because they cannot or have not reached the expectations they have set for their lives.
My blog, was not for you. It was for those who have not taken the time to count their blessings, because they are too busy whining about the things that they do not have, and do not need. Big difference.
I am having real trouble, understanding why people who are not well off, think I am speaking to their situation. Those, who like you, are really struggling, are in our prayers. Those of us, who are better off, need to be supportive of those who have not. In most communities there are people who are struggling. In most communities, their is some organization devoted to helping such people. Our responsibility, is to remember the poor, and seek to help them. The poor have a responsibility too, to try to rise up out of their poverty, and until they do, brush aside any pride they have that might keep them fron receiving help offered. Failing to do that, both those who want to help, and those who need it, are both missing a blessing.

]]> By: Sharon Kemp-Smith http://www.worthychat.com/blog/54/#comment-22760 Sharon Kemp-Smith Sun, 27 Apr 2008 04:05:17 +0000 http://www.worthychat.com/blog/54/#comment-22760 Folks, you won't be able to describe poverty fully until you've lived it. My family can be classified as poor because we breathe it daily. 5 in our Family living in someone's house,sleeping on the floor and not because we are lazy. We are Christians, we look very nice when we go into Public, but we can't afford car gas, utilities, rent and food all at the same time. Our lights were off last week, lasting for 2 weeks and we chose that, so that we could buy food instead. Please all, a little more compassion for those of us who do work hard but can't make ends meet. ,,,By the way, we do have a TV someone bought for us 5 yrs ago. Thanks for listening. Folks, you won’t be able to describe poverty fully until you’ve lived it. My family can be classified as poor because we breathe it daily. 5 in our Family living in someone’s house,sleeping on the floor and not because we are lazy. We are Christians, we look very nice when we go into Public, but we can’t afford car gas, utilities, rent and food all at the same time. Our lights were off last week, lasting for 2 weeks and we chose that, so that we could buy food instead. Please all, a little more compassion for those of us who do work hard but can’t make ends meet. ,,,By the way, we do have a TV someone bought for us 5 yrs ago. Thanks for listening.

]]> By: Omegaman 2.0 http://www.worthychat.com/blog/54/#comment-21634 Omegaman 2.0 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 04:24:54 +0000 http://www.worthychat.com/blog/54/#comment-21634 Obviously, many were offended by my rant. There were people who criticised me for criticizing others (go figure). I was asked what gives me the right to do so. I should ask in return, where has my right to express my opinion been suspended? While I see much criticism of my blog, I see no one disputing the facts presented. I am accused of lacking compassion. I would offer that the lack of expression of compassion, is not evidence of a lack of compassion. Compassion is known by actions, words are cheap. I purposefully laid out facts, by statistics and examples, and made no effort to confuse my points with emotional verbage. My points were few really. The main one being that most of what passes for poverty in this country, is falsely labeled. It was argued in the responses, that poverty is relative. Two thoughts occur to me there. If poverty is relative, then theoretically a person could have 5 Cadillacs, three yachts, a 10,000 sq. ft. lavishly furnished home on an 5 acre estate, if ones neighbors have 10 Rolls Royces, a cruise line, and a castle, and chateau and an 300 acre estate. I don't know if anyone believes that, I certainly do not. If poverty is relative, so is wealth. Certainly a person argueing relative poverty, should understand the point that most of America's poor are wealthy by historical and geographical standards. I honestly do not even know how that can be debated with any sense of integrity. The point is a simple one. Most of our poor are poor because they have not chosen to be otherwise. Poverty is avoidable for most people. Most people do avoid it in fact, but many of those who have avoided it, do not realize that they have avoided it. I am sorry, that their are people, whose idea of compassion, is to feel sorry for people, and expect someone else to fix the problem. I think there is great wisdom in the idea of teaching people to fish, instead of giving people a fish. America gives it's poor, a fish, and pays them to stay poor, instead of lifting them out of poverty by showing them a better way, a way of self dependence, instead of dependence on government programs. Can we not help the truely needy, who cannot help themselves, and can we not help those who are needlessly helpless, to become not only free of need of handouts, but help them reach a position where they can help others as well? I think we can do it. But we will not do so, as long as we have the attitude that makes us see people who are victims of bad choices in a light that makes it seem as though their condition could not have been avoided, and it is no one's fault, or worse, was the fault of society or some other vague cause. While such things as misfortunate effents can creat huge setback in our lives, in most cases, hard work, determination and common sense, will get us on the road to recovery. When hard times befall us, and people see us struggling to rise above them, they are more likely to pitch in, in my opinion, that if we sit around, waiting for rescue. We will never get rid of poverty, Jesus said so. We can however, create an atmosphere, where people feel empowed to help themselves, where they have the tools to do so, and where they can feel good about the fact, that they have been able to change their lives. This is the kind of country we used to live in, when we had personal resources to help others, and it was a priority. Somewhere along the line, we had a better idea, that government could fix things, could take care of the poor. We all know that has not worked, and that we have created families stuck in cycles of dependent poverty for generations. I do not and cannot blame people for taking a needed handout. I do blame people who fight to have a system in place, that keeps people dependent upon handouts. I can not see, how condeming people to poverty, is compasionate. I do not see how it is kind to make people depressed by their condition, when we tell them they are poor, while they are fed, dry, and warm. Their is a huge difference between necessities and luxuries, in spite of what modern relativistic thinking concludes. Should I apologize for what I have written, for offending people? Perhaps I should, but I am not sure why I should if I should. I do not believe that I have said anything untrue here. As I see it, you can be offended, and remain a victim, or, you can be challenged, and become a victor. It is all in your attitude, the choices are yours. Thank you all for you impassioned responses. Obviously, many were offended by my rant. There were people who criticised me for criticizing others (go figure). I was asked what gives me the right to do so. I should ask in return, where has my right to express my opinion been suspended?
While I see much criticism of my blog, I see no one disputing the facts presented. I am accused of lacking compassion. I would offer that the lack of expression of compassion, is not evidence of a lack of compassion. Compassion is known by actions, words are cheap.
I purposefully laid out facts, by statistics and examples, and made no effort to confuse my points with emotional verbage.
My points were few really. The main one being that most of what passes for poverty in this country, is falsely labeled. It was argued in the responses, that poverty is relative. Two thoughts occur to me there. If poverty is relative, then theoretically a person could have 5 Cadillacs, three yachts, a 10,000 sq. ft. lavishly furnished home on an 5 acre estate, if ones neighbors have 10 Rolls Royces, a cruise line, and a castle, and chateau and an 300 acre estate. I don’t know if anyone believes that, I certainly do not. If poverty is relative, so is wealth. Certainly a person argueing relative poverty, should understand the point that most of America’s poor are wealthy by historical and geographical standards. I honestly do not even know how that can be debated with any sense of integrity.
The point is a simple one. Most of our poor are poor because they have not chosen to be otherwise. Poverty is avoidable for most people. Most people do avoid it in fact, but many of those who have avoided it, do not realize that they have avoided it. I am sorry, that their are people, whose idea of compassion, is to feel sorry for people, and expect someone else to fix the problem. I think there is great wisdom in the idea of teaching people to fish, instead of giving people a fish. America gives it’s poor, a fish, and pays them to stay poor, instead of lifting them out of poverty by showing them a better way, a way of self dependence, instead of dependence on government programs.
Can we not help the truely needy, who cannot help themselves, and can we not help those who are needlessly helpless, to become not only free of need of handouts, but help them reach a position where they can help others as well?
I think we can do it. But we will not do so, as long as we have the attitude that makes us see people who are victims of bad choices in a light that makes it seem as though their condition could not have been avoided, and it is no one’s fault, or worse, was the fault of society or some other vague cause. While such things as misfortunate effents can creat huge setback in our lives, in most cases, hard work, determination and common sense, will get us on the road to recovery. When hard times befall us, and people see us struggling to rise above them, they are more likely to pitch in, in my opinion, that if we sit around, waiting for rescue.
We will never get rid of poverty, Jesus said so. We can however, create an atmosphere, where people feel empowed to help themselves, where they have the tools to do so, and where they can feel good about the fact, that they have been able to change their lives.
This is the kind of country we used to live in, when we had personal resources to help others, and it was a priority. Somewhere along the line, we had a better idea, that government could fix things, could take care of the poor. We all know that has not worked, and that we have created families stuck in cycles of dependent poverty for generations.
I do not and cannot blame people for taking a needed handout. I do blame people who fight to have a system in place, that keeps people dependent upon handouts. I can not see, how condeming people to poverty, is compasionate. I do not see how it is kind to make people depressed by their condition, when we tell them they are poor, while they are fed, dry, and warm. Their is a huge difference between necessities and luxuries, in spite of what modern relativistic thinking concludes.
Should I apologize for what I have written, for offending people? Perhaps I should, but I am not sure why I should if I should. I do not believe that I have said anything untrue here. As I see it, you can be offended, and remain a victim, or, you can be challenged, and become a victor. It is all in your attitude, the choices are yours.
Thank you all for you impassioned responses.

]]> By: Kalyn http://www.worthychat.com/blog/54/#comment-21328 Kalyn Mon, 18 Feb 2008 02:31:40 +0000 http://www.worthychat.com/blog/54/#comment-21328 I can't express how much I disagree with the points that were made in the original blog. While I do understand that Americans need to be MUCH more financially savvy and prudent, I also don't think it's our place to devalue someone by saying that they do not live in poverty because they may have a microwave or another material item. Frivolous spending is one thing, but sporadically purchasing items that may improve one's quality of life is something different altogether. Unfortunate circumstances happen to the best people, and using the example that we are living better now than anyone ever did in Jesus' time is just, well, ignorant. The whole WORLD practically lives better than in the time of Jesus, even people in developing countries, because of technological progression and other modern changes. Assuming that someone is financially irresponsible because of a string of unfortunate events is completely merciless and mean. Poverty is an EXTREMELY relative term, and varies greatly depending on your country of origin and cultural surroundings. In this country, it is becoming increasingly harder to function effectively in society without material possessions, such as computers (most lucrative jobs require online apps), microwaves (since so much time is spent working and commuting, scratch cooking is not an option for many families), cable (it's now required to watch any form of TV really), and electricity (this shouldn't even need an explanation); according to your reasoning, people who have these items should have the same tax bracket as President Bush, which is clearly WRONG. Moreover, the assumption that having a car equals conspicuous consumption is silly. I, for example, grew up in Michigan, and since the public transportation there is sub-par at best and better employment is found in the suburbs, it was necessary to have a car; though it's a very expensive commodity, the region's culture requires it. Many people try to just buy a hoopty, but the long term cost is more money put into upkeep, which means that it's better to just get a new car. Again, your reasoning would imply that a person who did such is financially irresponsible, which is just not true. So in conclusion, please learn to think outside of your personal box when determining what judgment to give to others. While I commend your endurance through what must obviously be hard times, understand that not everyone can/will/should deny welfare or unemployment, nor should they feel compelled to move into a shack to make up for the socioeconomic disparities that this country's political/social/economic systems perpetuate. Instead of looking for ways to make every poor or economically strapped person live like you, look for ways to pray for and creatively help these people find help that fits their personal life. I can’t express how much I disagree with the points that were made in the original blog. While I do understand that Americans need to be MUCH more financially savvy and prudent, I also don’t think it’s our place to devalue someone by saying that they do not live in poverty because they may have a microwave or another material item.

Frivolous spending is one thing, but sporadically purchasing items that may improve one’s quality of life is something different altogether. Unfortunate circumstances happen to the best people, and using the example that we are living better now than anyone ever did in Jesus’ time is just, well, ignorant. The whole WORLD practically lives better than in the time of Jesus, even people in developing countries, because of technological progression and other modern changes. Assuming that someone is financially irresponsible because of a string of unfortunate events is completely merciless and mean.

Poverty is an EXTREMELY relative term, and varies greatly depending on your country of origin and cultural surroundings. In this country, it is becoming increasingly harder to function effectively in society without material possessions, such as computers (most lucrative jobs require online apps), microwaves (since so much time is spent working and commuting, scratch cooking is not an option for many families), cable (it’s now required to watch any form of TV really), and electricity (this shouldn’t even need an explanation); according to your reasoning, people who have these items should have the same tax bracket as President Bush, which is clearly WRONG. Moreover, the assumption that having a car equals conspicuous consumption is silly. I, for example, grew up in Michigan, and since the public transportation there is sub-par at best and better employment is found in the suburbs, it was necessary to have a car; though it’s a very expensive commodity, the region’s culture requires it. Many people try to just buy a hoopty, but the long term cost is more money put into upkeep, which means that it’s better to just get a new car. Again, your reasoning would imply that a person who did such is financially irresponsible, which is just not true.

So in conclusion, please learn to think outside of your personal box when determining what judgment to give to others. While I commend your endurance through what must obviously be hard times, understand that not everyone can/will/should deny welfare or unemployment, nor should they feel compelled to move into a shack to make up for the socioeconomic disparities that this country’s political/social/economic systems perpetuate. Instead of looking for ways to make every poor or economically strapped person live like you, look for ways to pray for and creatively help these people find help that fits their personal life.

]]> By: broken servant http://www.worthychat.com/blog/54/#comment-21122 broken servant Tue, 12 Feb 2008 05:55:14 +0000 http://www.worthychat.com/blog/54/#comment-21122 Omegaman, I do like what you said. You sound like an example of one baring fruit with your actions, and helping your neighbors and brethren when they are in need. That's awesome. I pray that we as the church in America walk in love, and let out love show fruit. I'm not one to ask for help, but it grieves me that when I have explained some of my financial needs that the body of Christ as a whole does nothing. I have walked away cold, hungry, thirsty, and sick. We need to take care of the widows and the orphans in their distress- to be practicing true religion. To be known both to God and man, we need to care for one another, and show love by not just words, but in deed and in truth. When the body of Christ does not love each other and take care of one another, I believe that GOD's Spirit is grieved, and HE withdraws from a place. Of course HE takes care of HIS people, and have had strangers and people I never met before come up to me and give me the finances I have needed to pay bills, which I never told them of my needs. Whether these people were angels or believers or unbelievers, I don't know. But I believe that it is a privilege that we as the body have by blessing one another, and by doing it for the least of these. we are doing it for Jesus himself, and we will be rewarded greatly. So please let us, as the body of Christ, if we see our brother or sister in the church, or neighbor or stranger in need, help them. By doing this we are showing ourselves examples of Christs disciples. Omegaman,

I do like what you said. You sound like an example of one baring fruit with your actions, and helping your neighbors and brethren when they are in need. That’s awesome. I pray that we as the church in America walk in love, and let out love show fruit.

I’m not one to ask for help, but it grieves me that when I have explained some of my financial needs that the body of Christ as a whole does nothing. I have walked away cold, hungry, thirsty, and sick. We need to take care of the widows and the orphans in their distress- to be practicing true religion. To be known both to God and man, we need to care for one another, and show love by not just words, but in deed and in truth. When the body of Christ does not love each other and take care of one another, I believe that GOD’s Spirit is grieved, and HE withdraws from a place. Of course HE takes care of HIS people, and have had strangers and people I never met before come up to me and give me the finances I have needed to pay bills, which I never told them of my needs. Whether these people were angels or believers or unbelievers, I don’t know. But I believe that it is a privilege that we as the body have by blessing one another, and by doing it for the least of these. we are doing it for Jesus himself, and we will be rewarded greatly.

So please let us, as the body of Christ, if we see our brother or sister in the church, or neighbor or stranger in need, help them. By doing this we are showing ourselves examples of Christs disciples.

]]> By: writerchick4 http://www.worthychat.com/blog/54/#comment-20181 writerchick4 Tue, 15 Jan 2008 22:55:38 +0000 http://www.worthychat.com/blog/54/#comment-20181 I am honestly quite offended by many of the ideas put forth in both the blog and the comments. What gives you the right to judge what people buy with their own money. So what if they live below the poverty line, but still have a color TV? Why does it matter that they have more living space than your average Afghan? Great pleasure was taken in describing how lucky these people actually are when compared to citizens of other countries. It seems you've forgotten. They don't live in those other countries. They live here. In America. How can these people do anything except bemoan their financial status in a country where you have to pay for any and everything you do? Perhaps their lack wouldn't be as noticeable if everyone around them were in the same situation. That's just not the case in a nation where you have more chance being run down by a Maserati than by a goat. It drives me nuts when people talk bad about others who only want a better life for themselves. After all, wasn't that the purpose of Jesus' work on the cross? He came that we might have an abundant life. An abundant life is not one so filled with lack that we don't have time to serve Him. It also makes me crazy when people whom God has blessed with wealth feel they have to apologize for and justify it. What in the world is that? As long as you are fulfilling God's purpose for your life, there is nothing shameful about His blessing you money, health, friends, etc. After all, He knows He can trust you to use those resources to His glory. I find it really disturbing that one of the solutions put forth to people who find themselves in povery was to further their education at a Junior College or Trade School. While upper education is admirable, why are four-year colleges mentioned? Or perhaps a person living in poverty isn't smart enough to go to Harvard. Now let's talk about the advice given to Leslie. She clearly stated that she needed birth control to manage a medical issue that can become cancer. Yet she's advised not to live with her boyfriend so she doesn't need the birth control in the first place. While it's admirable that premarital sex is not condoned, but that's not her main issue here. It's the medical condition that can flare up regardless of whether or not she has a boyfriend. It might be wise to reign in the bragging about how you have seven kids, but are eligible for welfare programs. Doesn't the Bible say that a good man leaves an inheritance to his children's children? What kind of inheritance are you leaving behind. One last thought. It's very interesting how devoid of compassion this post is. It's amazing that people who claim to be grateful to Jesus for His compassion toward us can turn right around and be this harsh with His other children. Very interesting indeed. I am honestly quite offended by many of the ideas put forth in both the blog and the comments. What gives you the right to judge what people buy with their own money. So what if they live below the poverty line, but still have a color TV? Why does it matter that they have more living space than your average Afghan?

Great pleasure was taken in describing how lucky these people actually are when compared to citizens of other countries. It seems you’ve forgotten. They don’t live in those other countries. They live here. In America.

How can these people do anything except bemoan their financial status in a country where you have to pay for any and everything you do? Perhaps their lack wouldn’t be as noticeable if everyone around them were in the same situation. That’s just not the case in a nation where you have more chance being run down by a Maserati than by a goat.

It drives me nuts when people talk bad about others who only want a better life for themselves. After all, wasn’t that the purpose of Jesus’ work on the cross? He came that we might have an abundant life. An abundant life is not one so filled with lack that we don’t have time to serve Him.

It also makes me crazy when people whom God has blessed with wealth feel they have to apologize for and justify it. What in the world is that? As long as you are fulfilling God’s purpose for your life, there is nothing shameful about His blessing you money, health, friends, etc. After all, He knows He can trust you to use those resources to His glory.

I find it really disturbing that one of the solutions put forth to people who find themselves in povery was to further their education at a Junior College or Trade School. While upper education is admirable, why are four-year colleges mentioned? Or perhaps a person living in poverty isn’t smart enough to go to Harvard.

Now let’s talk about the advice given to Leslie. She clearly stated that she needed birth control to manage a medical issue that can become cancer. Yet she’s advised not to live with her boyfriend so she doesn’t need the birth control in the first place. While it’s admirable that premarital sex is not condoned, but that’s not her main issue here. It’s the medical condition that can flare up regardless of whether or not she has a boyfriend.

It might be wise to reign in the bragging about how you have seven kids, but are eligible for welfare programs. Doesn’t the Bible say that a good man leaves an inheritance to his children’s children? What kind of inheritance are you leaving behind.

One last thought. It’s very interesting how devoid of compassion this post is. It’s amazing that people who claim to be grateful to Jesus for His compassion toward us can turn right around and be this harsh with His other children.

Very interesting indeed.

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